Jason Calacanis

They've been incredible partners for 30 years.

I said, how about we take out half so we can make payroll?

I said, how about we take out half so we can make payroll?

I insisted.

I insisted.

Literally that night, boom.

Literally that night, boom.

And so the key issue now is your business model.

And so the key issue now is your business model.

You need to have revenue.

You need to have revenue.

And the revenue from these stable coins is paying some interest.

And the revenue from these stable coins is paying some interest.

And the people who are putting their money in there being able to make some interest on their hard-earned capital.

And the people who are putting their money in there being able to make some interest on their hard-earned capital.

Yeah, that's the sticking point for you.

Yeah, that's the sticking point for you.

The reward program, we should think of it like American Express points?

The reward program, we should think of it like American Express points?

haven't had to deal with a disruptive competitor, a technology competitor who's really good at what they're doing.