Jason Clancy

Monsignor Shine was involved he you know and spoke with Bill Keneally about it or whatever and they did the exact same thing again and as the judge says look the Keneally family they didn't do the right thing they didn't go to the authorities which they should have had and it was more certainly about keeping the family secret as opposed to actually doing the right thing and look it doesn't take an experienced judge to say that it's as obvious as

It was kind of like, you know... No, it wasn't a family secret.

No, no, it wasn't.

It absolutely wasn't a family secret.

But, you know, they certainly weren't going to be making it official with any authority or anything.

So what we know is up to the early 90s.

Up to the early 90s.

But that's, you know, what we know.

He's traveled abroad over the years as well.

And, you know, for six and eight weeks at a time over to America and different places.

So you just don't know.

So I went to the guards in November 2012.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, my wife.

Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I told my wife, yeah.

It was.

And that wasn't the hardest conversation I had to have.

And it's in the report as well, so I can... But what happened is when I went into the Garda station in November 2012...