Jason DeRose
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
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Thanks so much. Thank you so much for having me.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
Well, after a pope dies, within 15 to 20 days, the eligible cardinals, which means any cardinal from around the world who is under the age of 80... comes to Rome, and they're having meetings right now, in fact, this week and early next week, where they're discussing all of the issues facing the church. And then next week, they will go to Mass, they will process into the Sistine Chapel.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
Somebody will say, get out if you're not a cardinal, and they will lock them in. Only the eligible cardinals can be in there, and they will start voting.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
So these cardinal electors will, on a ballot, a piece of paper, write down the name of the person they want to be pope. And then one at a time, they will walk up to the table at the front of the Sistine Chapel. They will put that piece of paper on a small plate. They will, with that plate, drop the piece of paper, the ballot, into a big chalice. And then after all of the electors have done that,
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
They will draw the names out one at a time. And there will be three people sitting at that table. The first cardinal will read the name to himself. The next cardinal will read the name to himself. And the next cardinal will read the name aloud. Oh. So that they have three people confirming that that's what that name is.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
And then the last person who reads it aloud... will, with a needle, pierce the ballot and string it up. This is so that there aren't double votes. So it's this very ceremonial tradition of how the vote happens. And it's completely secret. In fact, the cardinals are asked to maybe disguise your handwriting, although I don't know how you would know anybody else's handwriting.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
There are 133 of them, and I don't know how you could recognize that many people's handwriting.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
Well, it's interesting that you say they've not met because, you know, Francis appointed so many of them and they're from all over the world and they don't get together like weekly to meet each other and examine each other's handwriting. They get together once in a while. Yeah.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
I got on a plane as soon as the Pope died. So I don't know what people are saying in the United States. I don't know what people in Rome are saying. And every Italian that I talk to says it's time to have an Italian Pope again. Every cab driver, every server in a restaurant, you know, everybody, every salesperson that I've just chatted with says it's time for an Italian Pope again.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
Well, I would say that his legacy falls into a few areas. This is not meant to be a comprehensive list. I would say real openness to dialogue. Over the last few years, there was this almost several years-long conversation, which was called a synod on synodality, which basically meant the church talking to itself about how it wanted to be the church together.
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The pope wanted to have a conversation that said, I want to hear what people in the pews in Cleveland, Ohio, are saying about what the church should look like in the future. And then I think that there are a few issues that were sort of the big issues in his papacy that will probably, you know, 50 years down the road, people might still talk about.
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And I would say his real attention to migrants and poverty. His first trip was to this island Lampedusa, which is an Italian island off the coast of North Africa. because it was where migrants, refugees, were floating to on rafts and boats. And so he really wanted to be present with them and say, the church sees you and hears you. So I would say migrants, a very big issue for him.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
Also the environment. He issued two letters about the environment. In a certain way, that did upset some Catholics who say, live in coal country or oil country, whose whole economy is based on fossil fuels, He appointed a huge number of women to various committees throughout the church.
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And the final issue that I'll raise is LGBTQ issues, which, you know, the Pope did not change official church teaching. Same-sex sexual activity is still a sin within the Catholic Church. And the church teaches that same-sex sexual attraction is objectively disordered. And that's their phrase, quote unquote, objectively disordered.
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Are you pope-pilled? Here's your guide to the 2025 Conclave.
But he did allow for priests to bless people in same-sex relationships.
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That was a huge move. I was, in fact, in Tel Aviv covering the war in Gaza. And when that happened, and I had to get on the line and do a live conversation with all things considered, hoping that the air raid sirens weren't going to go off. Oh, my gosh.
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Well, he has the power to draw the attention of the world to the things that he cares about. And so if you can draw the eyes and ears of the world to migrants, to the environment, to the role of women, to LGBTQ issues, that wields huge power. power.
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You know, I think if you think about, he had a great focus on the idea of being a pastor, a shepherd. The word pastor and shepherd are related etymologically. And if you think of like being in the field with your flock, well, there are certain kinds of bosses that are in the field with their flock who know how to do everything because perhaps they work their way up like Francis did.
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The National Weather Service says that after a few quiet days, overnight and into Tuesday, winds will likely pick up dramatically. Those winds blow embers over fire breaks, sometimes across major highways and into neighborhoods. The hazard is compounded by dropping humidity. CAL FIRE warns there's still a lot of fuel out there, bone-dry trees and brush and grass.
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At least 9,000 firefighters are on the job from L.A. County, surrounding counties and states, as well as Canada and Mexico. Jason DeRose, NPR News, Los Angeles.
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Sotheby's says an anonymous bidder has acquired the 115-pound white marble slab and plans to donate it to an Israeli institution. The final $5 million price is far more than what the auction house estimated it would go for. According to Sotheby's, the object was discovered in 1913 during construction of a railroad south of Tel Aviv.
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It was used as a paving stone in a home for decades until someone figured out that the inscription was of the Ten Commandments. An oddity is that the list is missing the prohibition against taking God's name in vain, but it includes an admonition to worship God on Mount Gerizim rather than in Jerusalem.
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Scholars say that means the tablet was likely used by Samaritans rather than Jews or Christians. Jason DeRose, NPR News.
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Lifeway Research found the only place the conservative evangelical Christian group gained members was in New England, but only a tiny percentage of its congregations are based there. Elsewhere in the U.S., losses were significant. The analysis shows that between 2018 and 2023, Southern Baptist congregations on the West Coast shrank by 18%. In the Great Plains, congregations were down 15 percent.
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And in the South, from Texas to Kentucky, where Southern Baptists are largely concentrated, congregations lost 8 percent of their membership. As with most Christian groups in the U.S., overall numbers have declined in recent decades. But Southern Baptists are still the largest Protestant group in the country, with roughly 13 million members. Jason DeRose, NPR News.
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The Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests, or SNAP, has launched a project called Conclave Watch to track what cardinals have done or not done to clean up abuse. SNAP's Sarah Pearson says the church should do more to change the culture of deference that excused abuse against But she also points out Pope Francis allowed bishops and cardinals to be investigated for abuse or cover-up.
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Conclave Watch includes the formal reports SNAP has sent to the Vatican, along with any supporting evidence the group has gathered. Jason DeRose, NPR News, Rome.
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The group Evangelical Immigration Table describes itself as a coalition of Christian organizations that advocates for immigration reform consistent with biblical values. In a letter sent to the Trump administration, it says two policies in particular are troubling. First is the end of longstanding guidance that prevents immigration officers from entering sensitive locations, such as churches.
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The other is the suspension of the refugee admissions program, which limits the U.S. 's ability to offer, according to the letter, protection for people seeking to enter the country in order to practice their faith freely. The letter was signed by, among others, the National Association of Evangelicals and the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.
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In a statement, more than a dozen Jewish organizations say that X has become a platform that promotes hate, anti-Semitism, and societal division. They plan to stop engagement on X within the next several months. Among the groups, the Union for Reform Judaism, the Central Conference of American Rabbis, the Central Conference of Cantors, and the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism.
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They cite reduced content moderation and X owner Elon Musk's own posts. The groups say rather than contribute to the coarsening of discourse that is so pervasive on X, they'll post content elsewhere. Jason DeRose, NPR News.
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The strategy released last week details four priorities. Increase awareness of hatred against Muslims and Arabs. Improve safety and security. Tackle discrimination and bias while accommodating Muslim religious practices. And build solidarity with Muslims and Arabs in broader society.
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The Council on American Islamic Relations argues that President Biden should address bias on the federal terrorism watch list and cease support for Israel's war in Gaza. The strategy comes more than a year and a half after the Biden administration pledged to counter anti-Semitism. Jason DeRose, NPR News.
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Taking part in the burial rite is former Los Angeles Archbishop Cardinal Roger Mahoney. Court documents show Mahoney actively participated in the clergy's sex abuse cover-up by moving accused priests in order to avoid law enforcement. The archdiocese ended up paying out hundreds of millions of dollars in settlement money to victims.
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Mahoney's successor later barred him from public ministry in Los Angeles. Victims and their advocates say Mahoney's participation in the burial is shameful and indicates the church hasn't learned enough from its errors in handling clergy sex abuse. Jason DeRose, NPR News, Rome.
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Pope's Life And Legacy, What Happens Now In Rome, Reaction From South America
Well, I think of a number of issues that he addressed during the 12 years that he was pope. Immigrants and refugees, the environment, politics, and gender and LGBTQ plus issues. In the area of immigrants, early in his papacy, he took a trip to the island of Lampedusa to highlight the plight of refugees in North Africa.
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Francis also traveled to the island of Lesbos to highlight refugees from the Middle East. He talked about refugees being especially close to the heart of God. And he reminded people of the biblical story that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, shortly after Jesus' birth, had to flee from Bethlehem to Egypt because King Herod wanted to kill Jesus.
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And he even drew attention to migrants and refugees right before the U.S. election, saying that U.S. Catholics should think about things like immigration in addition to issues such as abortion when they go to the polls.
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Pope's Life And Legacy, What Happens Now In Rome, Reaction From South America
Well, that's right. In other areas, such as the environment. His first solo encyclical of his papacy was focused on the environment. It was about care for creation, which he said God created as good. And, you know, he focused on the environment because the poorest of the earth are most directly affected by environmental degradation. This was all connected for him.
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Pope's Life And Legacy, What Happens Now In Rome, Reaction From South America
Desertification, flooding led to famine and poverty. and people being displaced. And that leads to a global migrant crisis. So that leads back to his interest and concern about immigrants. In the area of politics, he weighed in just earlier this year, you know, when Vice President J.D.
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Vance tried to say that Catholic teaching was to care for your family and your community before caring for others. And Pope Francis really called him to task for that. He said, care is not about concentric circles, that a Christian cares for the most in need first. And that means one should focus on migrants and refugees. Again, getting back to that theme of his.
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Pope's Life And Legacy, What Happens Now In Rome, Reaction From South America
Well, I think he'll be remembered as the first pope from the Americas, of course, the first pope from outside Europe in more than a thousand years. One of his legacies, I think, will be his openness to dialogue. You know, he just led this series of conversations within the church about how the church wants to exist, should exist, and should talk to itself, listen to the people in the pews.
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It shouldn't be so top-down. but should be much more bottom-up. He had an amazing appeal to younger people. You know, when I would go out and talk to people of, you know, in their teens and 20s and early 30s, they really felt a connection to him. He was the pope of their life. I spoke with a number of younger Catholics who we'll hear from later today on All Things Considered about just that.
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And then, you know, I also think of a return to the church. Many people who had left, say, under Christ, The previous pope, Pope Benedict, who was stricter, Francis brought them back to the church. He brought a great deal of openness to them.
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You know, not just enormously popular among Catholics, but enormously popular with non-Catholics. He was a pastor first, and I think that really came through. A very different pope from Pope Benedict, who was much more top-down.