Jason Fladlien

If you don't have any customer results, good luck.

But if you have so many customer results, it's ridiculous.

But if you have so many customer results, it's ridiculous.

Then you don't have to be that good at marketing to get the benefits of marketing.

Then you don't have to be that good at marketing to get the benefits of marketing.

I mean, I'm here as a result of the impact that I had on Alex Hermosi.

I mean, I'm here as a result of the impact that I had on Alex Hermosi.

I didn't have to go and chase you down and beg to get on your podcast.

I didn't have to go and chase you down and beg to get on your podcast.

Like you hit me out of the blue.

Like you hit me out of the blue.

I saw him like, this is a good podcast.

I saw him like, this is a good podcast.

I want to be on this thing, right?

I want to be on this thing, right?

And that's how I like to play it.

And that's how I like to play it.

So we have to create success stories first.

So we have to create success stories first.

And so what's great about the beta launch approach is, like I told you, I don't have to have a name for the product yet.