Jason Friedberg

Listen, those are different.

It depends on where you're at.

If it's a YouTuber...

right and they want to scale up and they want to scale up and they have x amount they'll probably start on youtube or start on or start at facebook or start on our twitter once they get to a certain level they'll make a decision is can do they have a product that's right for a half hour or an hour on on netflix or a feature film right that's different from what youtube's business planet and neil will talk to you about that

So, again, you can't generalize that conversation.

For YouTubers, yeah.

I'm definitely not in that space.

That's not something I do see.

There's people in my company that do that.

We have a whole division for YouTubers, et cetera, podcasting.

That's a whole group that we've started.

It's very successful right now.

Well, remember, the syndication model as broadcast television started to fade away as this, but there was a, at the beginning, there was a third window, which was Netflix.

Now, the cable and the station group window has kind of dissipated a little bit.

Right.

When you still, when you make a deal at a broadcaster, smaller now, you do have a bidding war between Netflix, whether it be, if you're at NBC, Peacock, we just finished a big, we're finishing up a big deal for The Office, which started on broadcast.

So there's a client, there's a client by the name of Noah Hawley, just had the Alien Earth show that it premiered at Disney.

He did Fargo also, incredibly talented guy.

I just signed him, right?

He's going to make a new deal.