Jason Friedberg

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg · In conversation with President Trump · 20 Jun 2024 podcast

And I think when you have somebody who can push back against that and use transparency and sunlight as the cleansing function, that is what we need.

What I heard was he said it was behind the people that were influencing him not to.

No, he did not say he didn't come anywhere close. He said that he thought the CIA was behind the things that were telling him. To not do it. And he listened to them out of trust and respect for them, which I think that's a reasonable judgment in the moment. My point is exposing that is a very important way of giving the influence and power back to the people.

I've mentioned this quote from Mike Pompeo, which is really powerful, but it's something to the effect of the people on the top floor of the CIA do not believe it's a Democrat or a Republican that runs America, but that they do. And he said that in the context of being asked, what is the one regret you have or some of the biggest regrets you have? in running the CIA.

And Pompeo said that he didn't fix that. So I think that there's a lot of embedded versions of this establishment class that lurk in many institutions, whether it's the EPA, whether it's the CIA, whether it's the NIH. And if there are ways in which the president can unlock the data that's necessary or the information

For all of us to have a little bit more clarity on what's happening, I think it's important. And I do think for many people that the JFK file is representative of a lot of them.

But can I tell you why you're surprised? Because I think we have been fed. This is what I'm saying. We have been fed a narrative of what President Trump looks like. Now, in fairness, we're also being fed a narrative of what President Biden is like. And this is why you have to see these men up close and personal for yourself.

Because David, the fact that you're surprised is less about the fact that Donald Trump has changed. It's more the fact that you've been told a narrative and you've believed it. And so now when you see the actual truth, you have to re-underwrite, hold on a second. He's actually pretty thoughtful. He's pretty presidential. He doesn't go off on people.

That's not what you probably thought going in because that's not what the mainstream media portrays about what you should be thinking about.

he played him like he walked 10 feet into north korea and now kim jong-un's like you know what i don't need this i guess my my big unanswered question i did want to ask him about like dalio's prediction of like the cycle of empires 500 years well let's play counterfactual freebrook what do you what do you how do you compare the answers you've heard to what you have heard or what you think president biden's answers would be to the things that you care about

I think he did say around regulation and then with respect to the bureaucracy, he pointed to education.

In 2016, there was not the kind of people that, for example, were at this fundraiser that David and I organized was, I think, entirely different than what you saw in 2016. And I do think there is an opportunity where if you dipped your hand, like there was a young man in the audience who answered this AI question, and he talked about public key, private key, cryptography. It was beautiful.

It was amazing. Very technical person. But there are all these people that are coming out of the woodwork. To your point, Freeberg, if he can figure out how to build a cabinet with those people, meaning these extremely technical, thoughtful people, then there's a real shot that you can change.

What do you think, Friedberg?

Yeah.

Who do you think is closer to your desired outcome, Trump or Biden?

And that is my other concern is just like, or you speak directly to the people and you end up where Jake Al is at and where you're at, which is you've heard him face to face really for the first time.

The point is, I think that we had an opportunity to interview the President of the United States. And that was Congrats. I think we talked about a broad spectrum of issues. I wish we had more time. I think he answered them precisely. And I think he was candid. And I think that he gave us new information, which I think is important.

And I think it allowed you guys to see what I saw, which is if you're an independent or not a Republican, quote unquote, by name, and you have a preconceived notion of what President Trump is like, it's very difficult to keep that notion, is my point, after you hear him and after you meet him.

And I think that that's a very important thing to keep in mind, because I don't think it says as much about President Trump as it does about the lens with which we are taught to think about all of these people, including President Biden. So I would just say, you got to think for yourself. And that's the most important takeaway.

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