Jason Giles

We're designing the platform and we had design developers on staff sat right with the designers.

What that meant was that multiple times a day, we push the build up onto the TV with our remote controls and we felt it.

And those ideas that we thought felt good and maybe, you know, in a wireframe or whatever,

We're like, oh, this doesn't flow actually, or this, I'm getting lost.

Yes, yes, yes, exactly.

I love that.

And I 100% agree.

The speed that these allow us to do and the fidelity, it's just fluid now.

And so I think it changes the way that we think about the possibilities of these.

the conversation, the collaboration, whether that's with each other, with our developers, or with customers.

And that's incredibly exciting.

Okay.

Andrew, once again, I really, really enjoy the opportunity to talk.

The report that you've put out, the findings that we're seeing, you've just really brought it to life.

And if some of our listeners want to find out more about the state of design in 2026, how would they go about that?

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