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Jason Helfstein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
263 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Whereas ChatGP, you know, OpenAI, like, I think investors want to see, like, where does the revenue come from, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Yeah.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

They have to let... They can't.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

I mean, I don't know.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

They need to let it... Well, the only reason the numbers... Remember, they guide annual and we guess at the quarterly impact.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Right, right.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So it's entirely possible supply chain delays, like, you know, maybe the quarterly build is slower because, like...

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

You didn't get a data center to bring on, right?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like you couldn't get the power, etc.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So it's entirely possible that like maybe the cadence, but like I don't see any of these companies.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

The only company who could maybe do an about face would be Meta, whereas if they launched whatever the newest version of their frontier model is.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

And if it kind of falls flat, then everyone's going to be like, why do you need to spend this much money?

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

If you can't produce like a frontier model, why don't you just use Claude or use Gemini or, you know, et cetera.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

So they would be the only ones, in my opinion, that could pull back the rest of the companies because they are, again, are running data center, hyperscaler businesses to sell tokens.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like they're not going to pull back in the next 12 months.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

No, again, like they have, like there is a spreadsheet.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Each of these companies, they were literally like for every dollar we put in CapEx, this is what the profit is in two to three years.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Like within like a very high degree of certainty.

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

Now, again, the only reason that won't be there is if three years from now, the amount of usage of AI compute ends up being like way less than

The Rundown
Will Amazon, Google, & Uber Withstand the AI Market Backlash?

than what everyone forecast when everyone's just talking about, there's an absolute shortage of capacity right now.