Jason Holland

Oh, yeah.

You know, you can come out of playing.

I don't know if you felt that when you did, but you come out and you facilitate and you put everything in place for the boys, but you don't actually coach anyone.

So that was a real, oh, I opened the film, oh, shit.

So that was a good moment for me.

And I just gradually got better at that, I think, and gradually have a real focus around

around the individual and how they fit into the big picture, you know?

So that's been a big one for me to gradually get better at.

Yeah, pretty limited, not limited, but small role and just doing the backs.

And, um, I think Dumper was doing the attack, so I'd just come up with all the strikes and that sort of thing and do the skills.

So,

Yeah, good starting spot.

Did you miss the game?

Um, I didn't actually.

I didn't.

I spotted because, um, yeah, I got to mid thirties.

Um, I actually went and played a couple of club games when I was about 38 or 39.

So maybe I did actually for a little club called Middleton, which looked after me massively for my whole time.

And so I went back and did a little bit of, um, play a coach for them for, for one season before I came home.

And, um,