Jason Holland

So yeah, maybe I did miss it.

I remember lying on the bottom of a ruck when I was about 38 and got accidental, one of my mates, a dopey Middleton Ford's kicked me in the face at a ruck.

And I remember just looking out and seeing my Y fans and they're just laughing at me and I've got a, been kicked in the head and yeah.

I was like, that was the last time I played.

No, that was a different one.

That was a split.

But yeah, no, I definitely don't miss the physical side of the game these days, but shit, I couldn't be out of it.

I couldn't be out of footy, you know?

Yeah.

I've actually thought about that over the last couple of years, my ability to use it.

Could I use my skills in other spaces, you know?

Yeah.

Could you be teaching?

Could you be...

you know, managing people somewhere else.

But mate, when you sit down and you watch the footy and you, and you, you know, watch some of the other New Zealand teams and try and figure things out, that's, that's what you do it for.

Nah.

No, no, no, I can't.

I, um, my wife will watch for that weekend.

I can't, I can't sit down on which footy without, oh yeah.