Jason Holland

But it's enjoyable working with the group that are nice and mature and understand they want to help everyone else in the group, not just themselves.

Yeah, and it'd be interesting to look at the teams that have won, obviously, Crusaders for a whole lot of years and the Blues over last year as to what the makeup of their team in that space is.

You know, what age are guys?

Where's the leadership?

And the little sprinkles of young talent that have come through to give them a bit of a razzle or a bit of pop, you know.

So if you look at

The Crusaders over the last few years and the Blues, they're in that space, I reckon, around that age bracket of players.

So it's a good food for thought.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's right.

And the challenge is to, you know, the Canes have always had a, you know, philosophy around playing, around making sure we play and we entertain.

That doesn't always win you championships.

So the balance there, the boys are starting to understand.

So, yeah, no, we're in a good spot.

But, yeah, under no illusions that we're, you know, it's only early in the season and we've got some pretty big games coming up with some New Zealand teams.

yeah and obviously in the news this week was that you uh next year off to the blues um head coach roll up the exciting opportunity for you yeah it's been it is a real exciting opportunity um had some you know great catch-ups with people up there um there's some as i say a great group of senior players up there um and the opportunity with all the talent up there to to try and um to

build on what's been happening over the last couple of years.

Obviously won a championship a couple of years ago, building really nicely, developed the style of play where they can be nice and brutal and physical, which won a championship.

And I'm looking forward to getting up and building on that and seeing how I can, you know, add to that really in the way they play and, you know, looking forward to getting into the community up there.

Yeah, that was one of the main discussions really early.