Jason Lemkin

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25,086 appearances 48 recordings 3 series first heard Aug 2022 last heard 10 Sep

Jason Lemkin’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Recordings per month over the last 12 months — 47 in all, peaking in May 2026 with 10.

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wiki that no one had looked at in a decade. voice-verified
I mean, there literally was twenty posts on this wiki in the last ten years. voice-verified
It was some so it was a dead piece of software that, you know, these guys used. voice-verified
But it just speaks to it's like, you know, water will find any crack. voice-verified
It's like these agents will find any crack in the cyber security, in the cyber perimeter. voice-verified
So you just have to assume they exist, defend accordingly. voice-verified
And it's really hard to know how to stop this because you I'm simpli because sometimes I'll I try and simplify it for myself because I don't fully get it. voice-verified
It's like you really have two capabilities here. voice-verified
One is, you know, with the persistence of the agent, you have the ability to keep trying things computationally, you know, exploring lots of different alternatives. voice-verified
But the key insight is it's not just kind of blindly iterating like a password cracker, you know, where you type XYZ01. voice-verified
XYZ02. voice-verified
Because in conjunction with that, you have this quote unquote reasoning agent where, you know, you've got this LLM there, and you know, you can and it can come up with ideas like: hey, if you want to get the seats at the theater, the best way to do it is to hack into the reservation thing and cancel someone else's seat and then book it, which has happened recently, right? voice-verified
And it's actually not a bad, and if you think about it, if it's trained on the entire corpus of the internet. voice-verified
That's not a crazy option to do it, right? voice-verified
So you end up trying to write rules and values to have it not do that, but you're never quite sure you've covered all the gaps. voice-verified
So it's actually a pretty hard problem. voice-verified
And we're gonna be wrestling with this. voice-verified
And I think that which going back to what I said, that that's even before you add malevolence. voice-verified
If on top of that, instead of the reasoning being maybe you should do this, even though I have values. voice-verified
It's actively do whatever it takes. voice-verified
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