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Jason Meno

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

And after each of these meditations, I'm having them re-rate their belief in their negative thoughts and feelings.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

And after each of these meditations, I'm having them re-rate their belief in their negative thoughts and feelings.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

After each meditation, yeah.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

After each meditation, yeah.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

That's right, yeah. So they'll do the body scan meditation one, then they'll rate their belief in the thought and their feelings again. And then they'll do the counting meditation to rate their belief in the thought, rate their negative feelings again. So that's how we went through each one of these.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

That's right, yeah. So they'll do the body scan meditation one, then they'll rate their belief in the thought and their feelings again. And then they'll do the counting meditation to rate their belief in the thought, rate their negative feelings again. So that's how we went through each one of these.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

Yes, that's right. And then meditation four was a Vipassana meditation where it's just you're paying attention to the breath and your thinking and the feelings of your body. And I think that one specifically I did a noting Vipassana where you mentally note what you're experiencing. So if you notice yourself thinking, then you'll say to yourself, thinking, thinking.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

Yes, that's right. And then meditation four was a Vipassana meditation where it's just you're paying attention to the breath and your thinking and the feelings of your body. And I think that one specifically I did a noting Vipassana where you mentally note what you're experiencing. So if you notice yourself thinking, then you'll say to yourself, thinking, thinking.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

If you notice that you're breathing, then you'll think to yourself, breathing, breathing, breathing. If you hear a sound, you'll think to yourself, hearing, hearing. So that's how that meditation worked. And then the last meditation, which I kind of threw in as a curveball. Originally, I tried it as a control mechanism.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

If you notice that you're breathing, then you'll think to yourself, breathing, breathing, breathing. If you hear a sound, you'll think to yourself, hearing, hearing. So that's how that meditation worked. And then the last meditation, which I kind of threw in as a curveball. Originally, I tried it as a control mechanism.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

But the last meditation is called the do nothing meditation, which that's literally what the meditation has you do. Like that's the instructions. Like it starts out by just saying, OK, the instructions are do nothing meditation. OK, get to it. Do nothing. That's that's that's the meditation. And I mean, it is considered a real meditation.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

But the last meditation is called the do nothing meditation, which that's literally what the meditation has you do. Like that's the instructions. Like it starts out by just saying, OK, the instructions are do nothing meditation. OK, get to it. Do nothing. That's that's that's the meditation. And I mean, it is considered a real meditation.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

Like I think of the Zen tradition, it's or one of the Zen schools. It's called Shinkantaza is the name of that. But yeah, I like that meditation. But but you're not doing anything. So it's like that's like the perfect meditation. Like how would that change your thoughts and feelings? You literally do nothing. You just sit there. for 10 minutes. And so that was the that was the last meditation.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

Like I think of the Zen tradition, it's or one of the Zen schools. It's called Shinkantaza is the name of that. But yeah, I like that meditation. But but you're not doing anything. So it's like that's like the perfect meditation. Like how would that change your thoughts and feelings? You literally do nothing. You just sit there. for 10 minutes. And so that was the that was the last meditation.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

So and then at the end, of course, after all of this, I get some of their final comments and what they thought and how this was for them and try to understand if they did experience some changes. Why did they think that happened? And what's what's going on? So let's look at that data. Let's see what exactly happened with the meditations.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

So and then at the end, of course, after all of this, I get some of their final comments and what they thought and how this was for them and try to understand if they did experience some changes. Why did they think that happened? And what's what's going on? So let's look at that data. Let's see what exactly happened with the meditations.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

It's called like a non-dual meditation. Yeah. It's completely letting go. Yeah, I tried alternating them between essentially what I would call like very relaxing type meditations versus concentration, intense, like demanding meditations. So, yeah. So here's the numbers. The negative feelings, these are averages. They started off at 37.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

It's called like a non-dual meditation. Yeah. It's completely letting go. Yeah, I tried alternating them between essentially what I would call like very relaxing type meditations versus concentration, intense, like demanding meditations. So, yeah. So here's the numbers. The negative feelings, these are averages. They started off at 37.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

So it really, the first meditation basically took the number down, and then it just didn't do anything else. It just kind of evened out. Now, this is, oh, and so again, along with this is the expectation. So they went from a 37 down to about a 25 at the end. They expected their feelings to be about 25. Right. Almost like what we saw in our experiment. Yeah.

Feeling Good Podcast | TEAM-CBT - The New Mood Therapy
420: The Mindfulness Mystery Tour! And Two HUGE Discoveries!

So it really, the first meditation basically took the number down, and then it just didn't do anything else. It just kind of evened out. Now, this is, oh, and so again, along with this is the expectation. So they went from a 37 down to about a 25 at the end. They expected their feelings to be about 25. Right. Almost like what we saw in our experiment. Yeah.