Jason Meno
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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Yes, I'm quite skilled as well. Like I used to practice for many 12 hours a day for a long time. And so I've just kind of fallen off the practice. Now I'm coming back to it and I'm experiencing this contrast again of like, oh, right, this is what it feels like to be regularly meditating every day again. Yeah.
I asked people, I didn't get into this data for this chat, but I also captured how much did they like the meditation and how hard was it. And that last meditation, the do nothing, people really didn't like it, and they found it very, very difficult. While the body scan, people really liked it, and they did not find it difficult at all. And it was basically like an uphill scale from there.
At least while these specific meditations. Yeah.
Ask, ask away.
That would be a wonderful thing to look at though. Like I would like, it'd be super cool to basically get a group of people, ask them, what do you think would make you feel better? Like what are activities you could do that you think would be really good for you to do? And, you know, it might be like, oh, cleaning my kitchen, talking to my kids more, going out and taking a walk every day.
You know, we could have people like describe what they think would be good for them and then have them rate their negative feelings and thoughts and things like that.
Oh, I see. I've experienced, I think, like the moment the choice is made, like the moment you say, I'm going to do this thing that's good. It's not even like going off and doing it. It's basically before you've done the activity, the choice that you've made to go and do something good for yourself.
Right, yeah. Like those initial positive or the initial feelings that we gathered were actually already after they've realized they're about to do an experiment. So they might have actually gotten a mood boost just by being like, I'm going to meditate for an hour once they realize that that's what's happening.
I think about 180 are in my new tool, new cool tools club. That's a tongue twister. And... 60 made it in and actually started the first introductory like data collection phase.
Um, but yes, I can attest to this kind of the, the, there's a bit of an expectancy mood boost that you can get to. I think that's related to this. Like the moment you've made the decision to do something good, that there could be a mood boost from that.
Like I, I certainly back when I was really, really depressed and before I found team, I remember the first, every time I would reach out to get a therapist, I would get a huge mood boost. I would notice that I had this just because I started seeking help. I hadn't received the help yet, but just the action of making that moment, that forward movement of I'm doing something good for myself.
Yeah, yeah. We'll put my email in the show notes. And if you want to join in and try out all the other wacky experiments and things I'm running as part of the Feeling Great app and our creation of it, then yeah, I'm happy to have you join us and find new stuff.
Yeah. Thanks Rhonda. Thanks David. It's great being in sharing all these nerdy numbers with you. So it was fun.
Thank you.
Jason, do you want to add anything? Sure. When I think about self-defeating beliefs, I kind of see them as... I see negative thoughts as the very end branches that is coming out of a self-defeating belief.
And so that's why like when you use the uncovering techniques, like Matt said, you start with that negative thought and you're kind of like out on the edge branch of, you know, of suffering in your life and the way you're thinking. But when you start uncovering, you say, well, why is that upsetting to you? What does that mean to you?
You start getting back to your value system and you start getting back into like the meaning you make of the things that happen to you. And that at its core becomes a
self-defeating belief but i agree with matt too that whenever a self-defeating belief comes up with me like when i'm doing a mood log sometimes when i'm writing out my negative thoughts i realize like oh hey that's like one of the common self-defeating beliefs right there and so there really is no difference on the mood log often between the self-defeating belief and the negative thought um
When Anonymous said that they seem to be a little harder to defeat than normal negative thoughts, I do agree with that. Definitely when you're starting to get closer and closer to the most upsetting parts of your thinking, they can be extra challenging, definitely when you're applying methods. But at the end of the day, it's just another belief that you're working on in your mood log.
That's my take.
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