Jason Palmer
speaker
3,896 appearances
104 recordings
2 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 3d ago
Jason Palmer’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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That's all for this episode of the Intelligence.
We'll see you back here tomorrow.
The Economist.
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Hello and welcome to The Intelligence from The Economist.
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I'm Jason Palmer.
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Today on the show, the surge of sexually transmitted infections in Europe and a tribute to Ezra Pound's translator daughter.
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First up, though.
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It's kind of amazing that a computer program from the 1960s still has such influence in what we talk about now, still in the dawn of the generative AI era.
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Eliza was, in essence, the first chatbot, the brainchild of a computer scientist at MIT in 1966.
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In today's terms, it was primitive, all list referencing and pattern matching and bouncing users' statements back, rephrased as questions.
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The weird part was how those users often had the conviction they were typing to a machine that was thinking, conscious even.
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Since then, it's been called the Eliza Effect, a reminder that humans are still kinda bad at determining what is conscious and what consciousness is.
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Alok Jha is The Economist's science and technology editor and hosts Babbage, our sister show on science.
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So you've used the really big word there, conscious.
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Easy starter for 10.
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Do we even know what consciousness is?
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So with all that in mind, then how to even start going about answering the question about AIs being conscious?
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But an increasingly good simulation of consciousness is still not consciousness.
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The knife that we need to find is what divides seeming conscious from being conscious.
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But let's wind back a bit here.
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