Jason Rezaian

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Uncanny Valley | WIRED · How the Internet Could Help the Iranian People · 26 May 2026 podcast

They've been in a fighting posture with the United States, but with other countries for the entirety of their existence for the last 47 years.

That's not to say that they want to keep fighting.

I don't think it's necessarily in their long-term interest to do so.

So I think we will see skirmishes.

Pretty incredible that Israel and the United States were able to take out so many top layers of the Iranian leadership, both last summer and then in the strikes that started earlier this year.

Maybe even more incredible, though, is that the regime has continued to function.

I think that our analysis of Iran in Washington leaves a lot to be desired.

I think there were a lot of people in the sort of foreign policy, the expert space, who said this supreme leader has the—

totalitarian leader of Islamic theocracy, and when he dies, it'll all fall apart.

Well, that was never going to happen.

It doesn't mean that there isn't dissent.

It doesn't mean that people want to see this regime perpetuate.

But

There is a very big power structure that is built with Iranian ingenuity and creativity, which means, you know, there's horse trading, jockeying, lots of vying for influence and power within that system, and they have lots of guns.

So they're able to maintain control for, I don't want to say the foreseeable future, I don't want to put an expiration date on it, but they have control right now.

And I think that what we missed was the idea that an aerial campaign that...

was, frankly, incredibly successful and took out lots and lots of leaders beyond the Supreme Leader, a lot of officials, former Speaker of Parliament who was main negotiator in earlier nuclear negotiations, and many others, that that would lead to somehow an opening, and President Trump talked about this, for people to rise up.

Well, how are people who are unarmed

and unable to connect to the internet.

And I talk about this a lot, to the extent that people say, is it really that simple, get people back online?

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