Jason Wilson
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267 appearances
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard 25 Dec
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That's a really good question. Um, I'd be transparent with you. With men, it's not an issue because I've been doing it for 20 years, working with boys and men. Well, my wife, she'll often say, why are you looking off? Look at me in my eyes because I have the exercise in there. And I tell men, you may need to break contact, eye contact for a moment because it can get intense. Of course.
But reset back. And the reason it is is because just some unresolved hurt years ago. Same thing with her. We're processing and still growing. And then to move past that and say, no, I'm right here. Or I know I may tear up because of how much I love her, and so I'll break off. I don't want to dive deep right now. And so to give her all of my heart... And that's deep for a man.
Like, I'm locking into you like this and I'm staying there. And now, because you were smiling at first, then eventually the smile goes and you're really into deep communication. And then now the heart's open.
Look up. And she says, why do you do that? And I'm like. I don't know. It's still uncomfortable. I'm still unlearning what I've been living from for so many years. And that's why I tell men, stop thinking it's a master level in manhood. It's not. You have to keep evolving. And so I've gotten better.
You know, it's interesting because Nicole is very understanding. We wouldn't have been married 26 years if she hadn't accepted some of my ways. Of course. I'm an introvert who extroverts well. Okay, that's me. wholeheartedly, like concerts, any of that, I'd rather be doing nothing at home. Yeah, just relax. So she does a great job at that.
It's me just, again, what you asked about the attribute of the comprehensive manner or the characteristic that I have the most trouble exuding is that gentleman characteristic and really just allowing that part of my heart to open more to her. And that's something that's my next something else I will have victory over. So, yeah, that's great. Definitely.
I love being transparent because I don't want men to think like, well, he's arrived. Like, no, my brother is constant, evolving, constant. It's a journey. My wife and I call marriage a beautiful struggle. And because it is in as far as like a weight training or any type of conditioning to get your body where you want it to go. It's the same way with your mind as well and your heart.
Do the hard work. You know, it's hard work, but it's worth it. And I have a beautiful relationship with my wife where now arguments are, I don't want to say a thing of the past because anything could happen in the moment, but where we hold on to it longer than the day, those days are over.
Oh, my God. Her father was like, look, why don't you two just break up? Like that was like, please break up. Fighting all the time. Always arguing, always arguing. Just I mean, why do I draw a line? She would step over it and vice versa.
Well, that's not true because we used to fight and argue a lot, and now we don't. What helps us in communication, I'll use our relationship for an example, is if there's some discord or, you know, just some dissension between Nicole and I, and just say an argument ensues, just, you know, our voices raised. I don't look at Nicole, the woman who was in front of me.
I look at the young girl because I know my wife. I know the years when she didn't feel good enough and the wounds and the fear of losing everything. I look at that little girl. So oftentimes I tell my friends, wives as well, that's not the 50-year-old man that's talking. That's the 8-year-old when his father wasn't there. That's the 8-year-old when his mother was overprotective. Mm-hmm.
And so that's what helps me lock my heart into Nicole in those moments. I said, oh, I know why she's responding this way. She feels that she's about to lose something, Mickey. Or if I could, for so long, brother and I were married early on, I was very critical of Nicole. And you had a tone or an energy. No, just everything negative. Nothing she could do right. Really? Seriously, man.
And I had to go a period in our marriage without saying anything. I'm just going to eat this one. I saw what I was doing to my wife. It was so bad. In one of our psychotherapy sessions with our marriage counselors, I allowed her the freedom to write down everything that I did to her over the years on index cards.
Six hours. How? Two days. Oh, my gosh. Probably hundreds of index. For her to just say, when you said this, this is what it did to me. Why did you say it? Oh, man, that's a lot of hurt. but it was needed. I didn't mean this. This is why I said it. And this is what happened. This is where it came from. Next index card, next index card. So the therapist said, well, do you want to turn Jason?
The pride in me was like, yeah, I want to make sure she know it's not just her. You know what I mean? Just me. You did this to me. And the therapist said, like, I could have my stack as well. I chose not to do that. Is that suppressing your feelings, though? No, because I already expressed them, meaning I did the internal work. I let her know. And I let my therapist know.
My prayer life for God, everything, I was able to release it. But she couldn't let those things go. So that was more important to me. Anything that I feel that I'm holding on to, I make sure first and foremost that I speak it at the right moment. That's what's crucial. Timing is everything as far as in that relationship. And so, no, I couldn't.
Repressing it, brother, made me a very unstable man mentally. But at that moment in our marriage, my wife needed the opportunity to gracefully release the things that she had been hoarding in her heart that was affecting her love for me. And it set her free.
Absolutely. And for me to finally say, well, I said this, first and foremost, I was immature. I should have never first owned it. This was wrong. It was immature. Secondly, this is what I was trying to say. Mm-hmm. And I'm sorry. Oh, oh, oh, that's the first thing you have to acknowledge. First, I heard you. Then I'm sorry. And this is what I meant. Or there is no justification.
I was wrong and I'm sorry. And do you forgive me? And she may not forgive you right away.
That's true. But in some cases, but Nicole, when it was conveyed. Yeah, of course. She saw, you know, I mean, of course. Yeah.
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