Jason Zengerle

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211 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Jan 2026 last heard 29 Jan

Jason Zengerle’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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The New Yorker Radio Hour · How Tucker Carlson Became the Prophet of MAGA · 23 Jan 2026 podcast

And that was, those were the people he was punching.

He was punching down and he was punching left.

He had, uh...

a complicated relationship with Trump.

Unlike a lot of the other Fox anchors, he was wary of Trump personally, and he was keeping his distance.

He was, I think, alarmed that Trump watched his show and watched so much cable television.

When Trump would call him after his show aired, I think Tucker was just kind of shocked that the leader of the free world was watching this much cable news and calling to give notes.

And he he thought maybe Trump would have a better use of his time.

So I think initially he was a little a little taken aback by that.

I mean, I think he found Trump entertaining.

I think he sort of thought he was kind of a charming rogue, which are the kind of people he used to write about.

But I don't think he thought that he was necessarily equipped to be president.

Not in many places.

I think it wasn't so much a sense of disagreement as much as he actually sort of believed it maybe more than Trump did.

I mean, I think he was more committed to the anti-immigration stuff, the anti-crime things, kind of those issues than Trump was himself.

And if he had issues with Trump, it was Trump was maybe just too casual of a racist.

He didn't really believe it.

I wish I knew the answer to that.

I was not able to get to the bottom of that.

Does Tucker Carlson know?

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