Jay Jack
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I'm doing a thing to escape a thing, but in no way is it like emergent, panic, freak out, whatever.
And then there's playing hot hands.
Do you know what I mean?
So it's like, you know, dodgeball.
And it's like, I'm doing a thing to escape a thing.
But each three of those things, they're all negative reinforcement.
We're all in the same quadrant.
Like all three of those things are in the same quadrant, but they're not remotely in the same zone.
Like they're wildly different experiences, all three of them.
And I think when a lot of people look at negative reinforcement as to whether or not they're going to use it or consider it,
they look at purely positive people see only the emergent panic button version of they don't they don't think the other two exist and the problem is i think a lot of balance trainers see the first two there's emergent there's non-emergent low level but they still don't see the third
they still don't understand the playful, the game of dodge the collar.
They don't understand the game of dodge the prong collar, the prong collar tap or the flat collar tap.
They don't understand the game of dodge the collar.
And so I think in balanced world, since they don't understand the playful version,
They say they use the low level, but kind of don't.
They kind of use the high level, but they excuse the high level by saying they use the low level.
Or they do use the low level, but they still don't understand play.
It's not a game.
You're downing because you're trying to shut off the discomfort of the caller.