Jay Jack

Go fuck yourself.

And within like...

I don't know.

I think it's mastering the aversive.

That's the problem is when people think when you hear somebody go, there's a lot of benefit to overcoming aversives.

It's almost like I used to have somebody that says you put the emphasis on the wrong syllable, right?

Like they hear you say overcoming aversives and what they hear is aversive.

And what I hear is overcoming.

Because if a dog, if a person, if a being masters an aversive, it never feels it.

It's complete control.

It masters it.

That sense of like, I can control, I have control, I have mastered this, is beautiful.

But if you think about, you can't master an aversive without experiencing it.

but they're so freaked out about the fact that the dog is going to experience it.

Like they're so freaked out about how sad the kid is.

They're getting on the bus that they can't get the kid to master the bus.

They're like, my kid's panicking.

He's crying.

I got to take him off the bus.

He's freaking out.