Jay Jack

And then we would talk about pitbulls on that show.

And then other people started asking me to come out to their place and not talk about dog training, but just talk about pitbulls, just like Pitbull 101, like, tell me about these dogs.

And so I started going around doing this workshop where I was just telling them about the history of the dogs and how they are and what they are and how to see them correctly, which then turned into people asking me for advice.

Well, what do you do to train them?

This is great that we understand them, but what do you do when the rubber hits the road?

And then I had to, you know, progress from there.

You, interestingly enough, dude, I got to you through Bulldogs.

Oddly enough, I don't even know if you know this because my wife bought me a seminar for your place in like 2013 or 14, something like that.

And that was the first time I met you in person.

So she bought me a ticket for your seminar as a birthday present.

But I've been watching.

I've been like, dude, I was a super like I could by the point I got to you.

Luckily, I don't I don't I keep a straight face.

Well, I don't like I don't fanboy out real hard.

You know what I mean?

Like I keep I keep my shit together.

But dude, by the time I went to your seminar, I could word for word.

like, uh, the obedience without conflict volumes one and two, the gate, like I could do that.

I could do that.

You're old from the nineties.