Jay Shetty

It cares about how quickly you do something hard, how hard it is, and how quickly it returns to baseline.

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And that resonated with me a lot because, and we'll talk about this later on, I don't want to get into it now, but you talk about this in the book as well, why the infrared sauna and why cold plunges kind of, that explains exactly that process.

Yes.

Especially if you're doing both back and forth and you think they're getting in the cold for, you're like, oh, I'd have to sit in there for a long time.

But it's actually how long is it uncomfortable for where it's actually working.

Because you're saying once it becomes normalized, once anything becomes normalized, whether it's spin class, whether it's sitting in the cold or whatever it may be, it's now not having that effect.

Have you got one in LA, Upgrade Labs?

I need to go.

Yeah, I need to come in.

Yeah, I didn't realize.

That's awesome.

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