Jay Shetty

Yeah, exactly what you just said.

It's a great mindset to have to understand that that's not their role and that there are people that you're seeing in order to experience that.

And at the same time, I do really, really wish for the world that, especially in moments that are not divisive, it's easier to be kinder.

We've talked about you being someone who's gone through extreme loss.

grief and going through guilt, shame, then there's the added component of your work, but then there's the added component of parenting while you're also grieving the loss of a child.

Talk to me about that particular type of grief.

I'm so sorry you had to go through that as well.

I really love what you're saying.

You accepting that you will be, that you are fundamentally different, but that doesn't mean you can't be better and can't give more love and those two things again can coexist.

That you have changed, that you are different, that you won't ever be the same person that you were before naturally, but...

that doesn't take away from the fact that you absolutely love Teddy and want to give him the best life that he could possibly have.

When I was thinking about today and thinking about our conversation, I was just thinking about all the multiple layers of loss, grief, pain that exist in someone's experience.

And I think the other part of pain for you is having to go through grief while someone else is grieving too.

Talk to me about how it feels for you grieving while the person that you're parenting with is also grieving.

Thank you for being so transparent about the reality of every emotion that any human would feel naturally in that situation.

and even the resolution that you've personally come to, where it being the respect and the empathy and the understanding, you've got such a big heart.

It just goes such a big heart.

It's actually really extremely healing listening to you because it's something we're all working on in our own way with the people closest to us.

You're just working on it in the most extreme way.

I'm happy and thankful that you feel that way with each other and that you've been able to express every feeling and be every version of yourself and even allow yourself to have the thought of, can I forgive?