JD Graffam

So Natalie referred Paul from Litmus.

This sounds like a gossip magazine at this point.

So I met Garrett by buying Sifter.

Garrett introduced me to Natalie.

Oh, Sifter.

S-I-F-T-E-R-A-P-P dot com.

Sifter app dot com.

Sifter's bug tracking.

Well, I am traditionally more interested in older apps that are simple, what you call crud apps.

So not complicated technology.

I'm looking at things that are going to be easy to operate and don't rely on marketing to hold steady or grow a little bit.

I place more of a value and emphasis on something that has stabilized or plateaued that's not shrinking than I do on something that's got one of those sharp growth curves.

one of those sharp growth curves and you're growing really fast and I'm not the buyer for that.

If you've been running a product for five or 10 years and you're ready for the next challenge or adventure or want to pay off your home and take care of your kid's college or whatever, I'm the guy that buys that.

Uh, you know, I signed an agreement that said I couldn't say those numbers.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Uh, well, we are, uh, well, I could pull the exact numbers, but I'm going to approximate around $140,000 a year.

Okay.

No, no, 140K annually.