JD Vance

Because, again, he engages.

Tell him he should do it next.

He engages and he's going to criticize you when he agrees or disagrees.

He's going to say nice things about you when he agrees with you.

But that's what I actually love about the president is he's not.

Yes, Jesus is all that matters, but I think one of the ways that we come to know God is by talking about him and trying to understand him.

And that's what I love about the American church is we're all kind of figuring that out together.

Different ways, sometimes with snake handlers, sometimes with speaking in tongues, sometimes with a beautiful Catholic mass.

But I think all these pathways really matter, and they're part of the reason why we do find our path to God.

So let me say first a couple things, Whoopi.

So number one, the book is actually way less political than you might think if you were just watching this, because obviously we're getting into the issues of the day.

95% of the book is really not about politics.

I kind of have to write about politics because I'm the vice president, but I want to answer your question.

So fundamentally, if you think about what is immigration enforcement, immigration is law enforcement.

It's somebody who has broken a law.

A law enforcement officer has to show up and enforce that law.

Now, inherently, sometimes that process is not always going to be pretty if you capture a video clip of it in the same way that if you arrest somebody for committing a violent or nonviolent crime, sometimes it's not always pretty.

What I'm saying is the Catholic faith is actually very it's I think it strikes the right balance here.

It says the Christian faith, I think this is true of Protestants and Catholics, that you can have borders.

You're allowed to enforce your borders.