Jean Luo

Yeah, there you go.

That's a great idea.

That's a great idea.

I would love to hear her thoughts on that.

Gosh, I don't know.

Well, I think it's always helpful to have

someone else's perspective who really cares about you and wants you to succeed, uh, to give you their point of view.

So I don't know if it'd be one thing I've offered, but I think I I'm always there and available as like, you know, a coach who's not willing, you know, who's, who's not like unwilling to say the tough thing or to, you know, uh, um,

push on something that I think will help her business or her as a leader or help her succeed.

I think it's just so important to have friends and family that care about you that are not afraid to keep it real.

Miranda keeps it very real with me, so I try to, in a gentle way, do the same with her.

Yeah, it helps.

Sometimes it hurts, but it helps.

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

She's like, what is wrong?

Like my skin is so dry.

Actually, that's like a really great thing because I have this like vivid memory of second grade.

I was like standing in line and the teacher had us all like hold hands and I like held hands with the girl next to me and she was like, your hands are so dry.

And I like have this like moment, this like scarring of like,