Jean Luo

Thank you.

And we're a top 10 business podcast on Spotify, where we talk about money, power, and love.

Most of us know what it feels like to stress about money.

Overdraft fees, not having enough cushion, or just feeling like the system isn't built for us.

Under Jason's leadership, Dave grew into one of the fastest rising names in neobanking.

They went public, faced a dramatic stock collapse, and is now staging one of the most impressive comebacks in fintech.

Thanks for having me.

Yay!

So you've been an entrepreneur for many, many years.

And looking back, what early experiences shaped the way you think about money and business today?

I think you mentioned self-belief in the beginning.

Is that something that you feel like was inherent in yourself or as a serial entrepreneur, you had to build that over time?

And did you ever question your self-belief?

Hmm.

Determination, stoicism, maybe.

Yeah.

My goal this year is to break 100 in golf.

She loves golfing.

I love golf.

Well, I started recently.