Jeannie McKay
speaker
160 appearances
4 recordings
1 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
Jeannie McKay’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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He helped me start to put it in context. Anne-Marie has come along to the interview with Blair. Yeah, it's like coming full circle. And she comes prepared. Hi, Blair. Hi, Anne-Marie. She's wearing business attire and holds a notepad with her questions. Since she first met Blair, Anne-Marie has learned so much more about the law. Now she almost sounds like a lawyer. She jumps right in.
Sure. But I just wonder, it appears there's a discriminatory application of laws, right? If male victims can see a conviction against a former teacher for sexual assaults, but female victims can't.
I looked to Anne-Marie. Would she go back to the police? Absolutely, yeah. And even after you went through four and a half years and the re-victimization, you still would do that?
It's been several years since Blair Crew first heard Anne-Marie's story. He believed her then. He believes her now. She has so much more information but as far as she's concerned still no justice.
Right. Before the interview is over, Blair Crew mentions one last thing, another crime that sometimes gets the attention of police and prosecutors.
As the interview wraps up, Anne-Marie and I look at each other. Blair's last comment caught our attention. We're both recalling something that Jeannie has told us. We've kept it to ourselves. I didn't know if or when to bring it up, but I guess we should talk about it now because it seems relevant. Actually, it's Jeannie McKay's story to tell, so I'm going to let her tell it.
But just a warning, there are going to be some graphic details.
Oh, I'm sorry that my face makes you sad.
Jeannie's eyes are damp from the moment the computer links us together. It's still the wee hours on the West Coast in British Columbia. Jeannie hasn't had her morning coffee. She's a teacher and wanted to talk to me before getting ready for her school day. We chat for a few minutes. Then she tells me again what happened to her as a teenager with her band teacher.
They were outside, lying under a tree.
These are private, difficult memories about yet another indignity.
and Jeannie says there's a reason she didn't mention the anal penetration when she went to the police decades ago.
The whole issue of crimes against boys versus crimes against girls is preying on Jeannie's mind. She imagines what was on the minds of the men who made the laws and the men who enforced them.
Despite the historic problems with these old laws, both Jeannie and Anne-Marie want authorities to consider what happened to the survivors was grossly indecent. And like Anne-Marie, Jeannie says she's willing to go back to the police.
We talk about our dogs to lighten the mood before we say goodbye. Another tough conversation wraps up. Doug Walker has always maintained the sexual encounters with these girls were consensual. I ask him specifically about this latest revelation from Jeannie. He says that never happened. But I have 28 more questions for him, and I have requested an interview.
Walker says he'll talk to me over the phone. We arrange a time. Next time on The Banned Teacher. Anne-Marie is back to work at a new job.
Anne-Marie has found other survivors with similar goals. One has a familiar voice from the first season of The Band Played On.
And Anne-Marie takes another important yet uncomfortable step in her own journey. And then I want to go into the music room.
You've been listening to The Band Teacher, ad-free on Apple Podcasts. Thanks for subscribing. The Band Teacher is investigated, reported, written, and hosted by me, Julie Ireton. Alison Cook is the story and script editor, producer, sound designer, and mixer. Felice Chin is our executive producer and story editor. Eve Saint-Laurent is our legal advisor.
Jennifer Chen, Amanda Pfeffer and Jen White provided valuable production advice. Special thanks to the folks at CBC Podcasts for their support. The managing editor of CBC Ottawa is Drake Fenton. If you or someone you know has been sexually abused, community resources can help. Reach out to a trusted person, sexual assault centre or rape crisis centre in your area.
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