Jeff Cavaliere

Can I do it side to side?

Can I do it double under?

As you said, like there's, there's, there's little built in challenges that I think we inherently always try to like, uh,

up the level of what we're doing to see what we can do and what we can't.

But that's built in.

That's not really built in on a lot of the other modes of conditioning, which is why people who do skip it, skip it.

Because it tends to be unapologetically kind of the most boring part of training.

If you're used to doing lots of different exercises and feeling the weight in your hands, it could be a little bit boring, but there's ways to make that more fun.

Do you like running?

I actually like running, but again, I can't tolerate it.

My knees are just, they feel like they want to detonate when I take about, after about a quarter mile.

Now I could do it on my, I have a Woodway treadmill, which are incredibly forgiving.

Which one is it?

Woodway.

Woodway.

Yeah.

We have, we used to have them in all the MLB weight rooms.

They're, they're basically, there's no deck underneath them.

So they're, it's like running on air and,

And Best Treadmill, also pretty super expensive, but they're worth the money if people have the ability to invest in one and they want to run indoors.