Jeff Flake

That swung too far.

And if you look at the next election, I mean, Democrats got clocked, took the shellacking that, you know, President Obama famously said, because I think that was moving too far.

They shouldn't have tried to just push it through even with 60.

They should have got a few Republican votes and had a better product in the end.

So I don't know that.

Do you agree with that estimation?

Yeah, that's been the frustrating thing.

Yeah, I do think that this double-tap strike, the second strike, particularly if that video is released, I mean, there will be revulsion, I think, on most Americans' part.

Sure, they want a strong response on drugs, but you can have that with some kind of humanity as well, and this wasn't it.

And so I do think that that's coming, but it has been frustrating because in all areas of foreign policy, whether it's tariffs, whether it's war powers—

Whether it's support for Ukraine, there's a bill in the Senate now with 85 co-sponsors that the Senate could, if it wanted to assert itself, pass that veto-proof bill.

And there are sufficient votes in the House too, but they just haven't because they're afraid of what the president can do to them.

No, I miss some things.

I miss the people.

Oh, yeah, we miss that.

And like I said, I didn't want to leave.

I wanted to stay in another.

I didn't get defeated, but I knew that in order to win re-election, I would have to change who I was and say things that I didn't believe.

Well...

I can say that most of my former colleagues don't agree with the policies they're pursuing on tariffs and foreign policy and this Venezuela stuff.