Jeff Flake

I think if the Democrats would be more centrist, it would force the Republicans back into that more centrist mode as well.

Well, I don't disagree with your, you know, the immigration overreach.

I think it is significantly, you know, talk about going after criminals.

Everybody wants that.

But he's gone far beyond that.

Every president coming in exaggerates the mandate that they've been given.

And they're usually given a whooping in the midterm elections coming up, almost always.

This time it'll be significant, I think.

And so you...

You'll have now a period of divided government, which I, as a fiscal conservative, concerned about debt and whatever else, am looking forward to.

Divided government is generally more fiscally prudent government, but it also— And maybe inspires that collaboration and compromise that's needed.

Precisely, because no president thinks that they can get it all.

They may be able to get all—

what they think they're going to get for a couple of years, but then the pendulum swings, and we're seeing that swing in a big way.

I wrote a piece the other day called The Great Migration Has Begun, GOP Migration.

We're seeing it on a few things, Marjorie Taylor Greene, a few outliers.

There's cracks in the facade, right?

There are, but now when people realize that it's popular now to be against the president on a couple of issues, and they will need to in order to survive some of these generals coming up,

you'll see a different attitude coming up.

You could make the alternate argument, which I would make with Obamacare.