Jeff Grant

And this wacky, wacky stuff is going on, and I'm drawn to the craziness.

These are my people.

That probably remains true today.

So...

I hung out a shingle, and I was renting a desk from someone, and that was for about three months.

And then all of a sudden, a lot of business started coming in, but I did not know how to handle it.

Because when you're a young lawyer who's just starting out, just like one of these jailhouse lawyers that you talked about, you don't know how to practice law.

So I had enough work coming in that I had to go hire lawyers who were my senior, like five years older than me.

But I was the, I was the rainmaker.

I was bringing in the business.

And ultimately that was my first firm that started.

And, and I was just learning at this, at this rate of just soaking up stuff of, of, of learning a craft and,

But what didn't happen was that I wasn't in like a large firm or middle-sized firm environment where you learn the kind of nuts and bolts of all the character building and the ethics and everything else you need to be a lawyer.

You know, I was like, it was like Cowboys and Indians stuff.

I was winging it.

Right.

And it was just like when I was growing up.

It's like I never grew up.

I became...

just someone who did whatever I was, still someone who did whatever I wanted to do.