Jeff Guinn

Correct. And the ATF in and of itself is the most unpopular government agency in the United States of America.

Correct. And the ATF in and of itself is the most unpopular government agency in the United States of America.

Correct. And the ATF in and of itself is the most unpopular government agency in the United States of America.

They are the punching bag for the NRA, these thugs, these jackbooted thugs. Stormtroopers who are going to force themselves into your home and take away your guns. That's the way they're shown. And yet, this is one of the most cost-efficient, effective agencies in America.

They are the punching bag for the NRA, these thugs, these jackbooted thugs. Stormtroopers who are going to force themselves into your home and take away your guns. That's the way they're shown. And yet, this is one of the most cost-efficient, effective agencies in America.

They are the punching bag for the NRA, these thugs, these jackbooted thugs. Stormtroopers who are going to force themselves into your home and take away your guns. That's the way they're shown. And yet, this is one of the most cost-efficient, effective agencies in America.

In the three years before what happens in Waco, you're talking about a group, an organization that conducts about 2,700 raids on drug dealers, gun runners, some of the skankiest people in America. And in all those raids, only three times are shots even fired. This is how efficient they are.

In the three years before what happens in Waco, you're talking about a group, an organization that conducts about 2,700 raids on drug dealers, gun runners, some of the skankiest people in America. And in all those raids, only three times are shots even fired. This is how efficient they are.

In the three years before what happens in Waco, you're talking about a group, an organization that conducts about 2,700 raids on drug dealers, gun runners, some of the skankiest people in America. And in all those raids, only three times are shots even fired. This is how efficient they are.

And yet, they're unpopular, there's always talk, they're going to be rolled into the FBI or some other agency. And in early 1992, there's talk that they may be in their last year. Clinton is talking about the possibility, this would save money, it'll condense government. They don't want that to happen.

And yet, they're unpopular, there's always talk, they're going to be rolled into the FBI or some other agency. And in early 1992, there's talk that they may be in their last year. Clinton is talking about the possibility, this would save money, it'll condense government. They don't want that to happen.

And yet, they're unpopular, there's always talk, they're going to be rolled into the FBI or some other agency. And in early 1992, there's talk that they may be in their last year. Clinton is talking about the possibility, this would save money, it'll condense government. They don't want that to happen.

So they're trying to think, what can we do that just proves to the public we're absolutely necessary. They start looking into the Branch Davidians at Mount Carmel because of the delivery man's complaint. And they pretty soon track down that what the Branch Davidians apparently are doing are illegally converting guns to fully automatic without paying the taxes or doing the registration.

So they're trying to think, what can we do that just proves to the public we're absolutely necessary. They start looking into the Branch Davidians at Mount Carmel because of the delivery man's complaint. And they pretty soon track down that what the Branch Davidians apparently are doing are illegally converting guns to fully automatic without paying the taxes or doing the registration.

So they're trying to think, what can we do that just proves to the public we're absolutely necessary. They start looking into the Branch Davidians at Mount Carmel because of the delivery man's complaint. And they pretty soon track down that what the Branch Davidians apparently are doing are illegally converting guns to fully automatic without paying the taxes or doing the registration.

That's breaking the law. And because of that, Legally they should in fact be raided by the ATF. The investigation takes months. ATF is trying to really get this nailed down. Because they make the decision that here is some crazy religious group. They never actually bother to try to find out what the Davidians believe. Just the religious nuts.

That's breaking the law. And because of that, Legally they should in fact be raided by the ATF. The investigation takes months. ATF is trying to really get this nailed down. Because they make the decision that here is some crazy religious group. They never actually bother to try to find out what the Davidians believe. Just the religious nuts.

That's breaking the law. And because of that, Legally they should in fact be raided by the ATF. The investigation takes months. ATF is trying to really get this nailed down. Because they make the decision that here is some crazy religious group. They never actually bother to try to find out what the Davidians believe. Just the religious nuts.

They start comparing them to People's Temple, the Jonestown Massacre, to the Manson family, some weird demagogue. And they build it up so if they do this properly, they go in there and without a shot being fired, get these guns from these religious nutcases. In March 1993, when they have to go before Congress to try to get their budget confirmed again, they'll have this great success.

They start comparing them to People's Temple, the Jonestown Massacre, to the Manson family, some weird demagogue. And they build it up so if they do this properly, they go in there and without a shot being fired, get these guns from these religious nutcases. In March 1993, when they have to go before Congress to try to get their budget confirmed again, they'll have this great success.