Jeff Hiller

And then when I realized I couldn't do that, I thought, oh, well then what makes sense is to go into social work or direct care, working in a shelter and then in public health.

And then I realized,

I'm not really good at that.

And so that's why I became an actor and left people not helping them at all.

But I still volunteer.

Well, I say I left the church.

I left the want to be an ordained pastor, but I still went to church for many years.

It was a hole in my identity to no longer think I was going to be a pastor, because that was sort of my whole persona, was sort of this granola Christian type.

And it was confusing.

It was harder...

To admit to myself that I wanted to be an actor and to leave behind social work and then do improv while I, you know, worked at temping at JPMorgan Chase by day and then doing improv shows by night.

That was, it was a real...

Yeah, it was like an identity confusing time to be like, oh, I guess I don't help people anymore.

Now I just do silly jokes in this basement of this Gristiti's grocery store.

My friend, my best friend, Katie, had done improv in college.

And she said, I want to go to this audition, but I'm afraid to go alone.

Will you come with me?

And I was like, oh, I could never do improv.

I'm so bad at it.

But I'll go with you in case, you know, this is a cult or whatever.