Jeff Horing

I can't explain it.

But for some reason, the language took off.

We looked at other waves and it was pretty easy for us to kind of sit on the sidelines.

Others on your show are big fans of blockchain.

Maybe now it's crypto because the blockchain's

No one could articulate the use case.

And it was back when I debated this with people.

It's 12 years in, come on.

There's a whole religion around it.

And maybe someday every bank will be on it, whatever.

But it's definitely way longer than anyone forecasts to be valuable.

And I certainly had a funny story.

Someone told me, all the technology guys that love blockchain think that technology is kind of meh, but the finance aspects of it are really cool.

And all the finance guys are like, the finance aspects of this aren't so great, but the tech looks really cool.

I'm like, huh.

Nobody was like, this is the best database I've ever seen in my life who understood database technology.

And finance guys are like, this isn't really how the world in finance is going to work.

So we've looked at other waves of technology and been a lot more sanguine about the potential and even the self-driving car.

That was a big hotspot a decade ago.

That was more vision.