Jeff O'Neill

Right?

That's a chain of command.

Yeah, you've got to impress or whatever.

The word is, and again, keep in mind, Keith Pelley has a boss as well, and he's got to take that up the chain, and maybe the boss has a drinking buddy that gets in his ear and says, you've got to do this, and he sends it down.

Keep in mind, we've heard stranger things with the chain of command.

You hear it all the time where Daryl Cates and Edmonton wanted to do something, or it's Jerry Jones.

Jerry Jones is in the room.

He does make solid moves.

Well, exactly.

I also think, though, the role of a manager, you have to be selfless, too, because you have to think what's best for the organization.

Really?

I don't know, man.

But don't you want to at least leave the organization, if you do, but don't you want to take care of the organization and have the best path forward, whether you see it through or not?

Because how many times did people say, well, that was AA's team here in Toronto.

He was willed.

Nick Nurse took over for Dwayne Casey.

You see all these things, right?

Yeah.

Sometimes a manager or a coach or whatever doesn't get to finish off the job that they started, but they help the process along.

Well, I'll go shorter term here, O. In the next nine days, you've got to figure out two unrestricted free agents, right, and what you're going to do with them.