Jeff Schoep

So people, you know, like the military and it was very, very controlled in that sense.

So when you say paramilitary training, what were you preparing for?

In these movements, they believe that the United States government is going to collapse, whether that's through a race war or civil war or anything like that.

And this goes far right, far left.

Most extremist groups have this or even, you know, the jihadi type religious extremism.

They have this idea that they're going to rise up and be the leaders of the future tomorrow.

So so groups like this prepare, you know, so they do like, you know, what you call like militia training, I guess.

And what do you hear there?

Fear.

Yeah.

Fear.

And the first thing and going back to the fear factor that like we did the exact same thing every time there was violence when we clash with Antifa or something like that.

We had people out there filming like NSM had its own media arm.

So they're out there filming that and we would put out those clips.

So immediately, especially if there was violence, if there was actual clashes and the police weren't keeping people separated.

those always turn into recruits.

That's how these groups would utilize that stuff.

So you have people that were being like, oh man, sorry, I missed it.

I didn't know we'd be fighting with the Reds.

I'll be at the next one.