Jeff Snyder

But start freaking arresting people.

Start putting them in jail.

Start having some convictions here.

We're tired of talking about it.

Let's see some real action.

And the third thing is getting back to a major point, which is why did all this fraud really explode in the 2020s?

This is an aftershock or an after effect of COVID.

Government size ballooned and government employees, government people, government politicians, their eyes got huge.

They had money flowing in every single way that they possibly could.

So of course, the first thing they thought about is how can we steal our part of it?

So the bigger the government gets, the more you should expect this kind of thing to take place.

When the government completely exploded in 2020 and 2021, this is the necessary byproduct from it.

Nobody is surprised by it.

So the only way to correct it is to hold people accountable for having done it.

And that was the other kind of wink and nod behind all of that was that we're never going to do – you guys can steal all you want.

We'll never hold you accountable.

We're never going to tell anybody this is a gravy train forever.

So in order for this to stop, we need to actually have some kind of accountability.

Well, that's the other side of this, right?

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