Jeff Steiner

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It seems like right now everyone thinks that NVMe is a media type, like we're not going to use flash drives, we're using NVMe drives.

No, you are switching from SAS-attached flash drives to NVMe-attached flash drives.

It's still flash, and odds are you're going to slam into the controller limits.

of whatever your storage solution is long before that interface matters now give it two years totally different story but for now that you that word is being abused badly and this i have even seen this leaking into the database space where

There's some device, I think the flash drives inside of Oracle Exadata systems are NVMe attached now, and there was a time when they were promoting that as if that means something.

Like, oh, it's now going to be a million times faster, but no, it's still just a flash drive.

That term... No, you know what, man?

If it weren't for certain vendors trying to lay claim to the term NVME, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now.

Somehow this became fashionable, and we were forced to start educating customers about what it actually means purely as a marketing exercise to certain other vendors.

And it would be nice if we could focus on providing something useful, but

If I understand it, marketing is part of it.

If you think about it, it's kind of bizarre that the storage industry, it seems like this should be the most fact-based product that you could possibly make.

It's about bytes and latency and bandwidth, but somehow...

It's like fashion.

I don't know how that happened.

Yeah, but why should – why are so many decisions ultimately coming down to who has the best PowerPoint presentation and who gives the better spoken presentation to a particular customer?

This shouldn't happen.

And from there, I'd like to circle around to something, another one of those boring things that comes up.

So when everyone is getting...