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And I'm, you know, then it was the holding the hair and I'm puking.
And I'm, you know, then it was the holding the hair and I'm puking.
I had thought about it only in that my friends had suggested, you know, you're such good friends with Jeff, don't you think? Maybe. And I was always stridently, no, absolutely not. Why? Why? I didn't look at him and think, like, oh, he's so hot. And he was my best friend. And once you make things romantic with somebody, like, it's going to change your friendship, your relationship.
I had thought about it only in that my friends had suggested, you know, you're such good friends with Jeff, don't you think? Maybe. And I was always stridently, no, absolutely not. Why? Why? I didn't look at him and think, like, oh, he's so hot. And he was my best friend. And once you make things romantic with somebody, like, it's going to change your friendship, your relationship.
And I just didn't want to do that. You didn't want to risk it. I didn't want to risk it. But I always had the feeling that I could at any time. I knew that he was game. Even when he was dating somebody, even when he was the most in love, I knew. And I would kind of think, like, I could just snap my fingers and he would drop her for me. I just knew. The glint in your eye. I mean, how did you know?
And I just didn't want to do that. You didn't want to risk it. I didn't want to risk it. But I always had the feeling that I could at any time. I knew that he was game. Even when he was dating somebody, even when he was the most in love, I knew. And I would kind of think, like, I could just snap my fingers and he would drop her for me. I just knew. The glint in your eye. I mean, how did you know?
We had, okay, when I was, so I was very nervous to start dating again and to have sex again with a new person, right? It had been years since I'd been with somebody new. I was very nervous and I went over to his apartment one day and I said, Jeff, we have to have pretend sex and you have to tell me the truth about my body. What does pretend sex mean?
We had, okay, when I was, so I was very nervous to start dating again and to have sex again with a new person, right? It had been years since I'd been with somebody new. I was very nervous and I went over to his apartment one day and I said, Jeff, we have to have pretend sex and you have to tell me the truth about my body. What does pretend sex mean?
Like, I stripped down to my underwear and he rolled out his yoga mat. And he said, should I take off my clothes? I said, no. He took off his shirt anyway. He loved to take his shirt off. And, yeah, we just got down. I did all these, like, went through a little Kama Sutra of different positions. And I would say, okay, look here. See how my stomach is hanging right now? What about this?
Like, I stripped down to my underwear and he rolled out his yoga mat. And he said, should I take off my clothes? I said, no. He took off his shirt anyway. He loved to take his shirt off. And, yeah, we just got down. I did all these, like, went through a little Kama Sutra of different positions. And I would say, okay, look here. See how my stomach is hanging right now? What about this?
What about that? What about this cottage cheese on my thigh?
What about that? What about this cottage cheese on my thigh?
He said, you look great. You're amazing. At one point, you maybe can't put this on there. We'll see. I was on top of him. And I said, look at my stomach right now. You're not even noticing this. Do you see? It's like punched down bread dough. And he said, if my dick is in you right now, I'm not seeing anything else. It feels amazing. You look amazing.
He said, you look great. You're amazing. At one point, you maybe can't put this on there. We'll see. I was on top of him. And I said, look at my stomach right now. You're not even noticing this. Do you see? It's like punched down bread dough. And he said, if my dick is in you right now, I'm not seeing anything else. It feels amazing. You look amazing.
bumping against each other so tell me about like was there kind of like a classic fight between the two of you he loved to talk about religion that was the main thing is that I go to church a lot I'm pretty into pretty into God I'm a Jesus freak. But I'm not, I don't love to talk about it. It feels very personal to me. And I definitely don't like to debate about it.
bumping against each other so tell me about like was there kind of like a classic fight between the two of you he loved to talk about religion that was the main thing is that I go to church a lot I'm pretty into pretty into God I'm a Jesus freak. But I'm not, I don't love to talk about it. It feels very personal to me. And I definitely don't like to debate about it.
I'm not interested in defending my beliefs to anyone or even explaining them particularly. It's just kind of my thing. And Jeff, I think he was very curious about spirituality and faith and And really wanted to know. But the way that he would ask me about it came out in this very teasing slash challenging way. And it really felt like he just wanted to make me mad.
I'm not interested in defending my beliefs to anyone or even explaining them particularly. It's just kind of my thing. And Jeff, I think he was very curious about spirituality and faith and And really wanted to know. But the way that he would ask me about it came out in this very teasing slash challenging way. And it really felt like he just wanted to make me mad.
And I would say, Jeff, I don't want to talk about this. This is not fun for me. But he loved to argue. He loved to play devil's advocate just to kind of get someone to debate with him. And he would just pick on me until I told him to fuck off. Was he good at apologizing?
And I would say, Jeff, I don't want to talk about this. This is not fun for me. But he loved to argue. He loved to play devil's advocate just to kind of get someone to debate with him. And he would just pick on me until I told him to fuck off. Was he good at apologizing?