Jefferson Fisher

Yeah, if I say, I can tell I'm getting defensive about that.

Yeah, if I say, I can tell I'm getting defensive about that.

That's a great metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I once had a trial where we were probably halfway through and this guy on the other side was such a fireball. He just gets so heated about everything. And halfway through in a break, he goes, man, I really don't like you. I said, oh, that's okay. He goes, no, no, I like you. I mean, you're great. He goes, the thing is, he goes, you don't give me an enemy.

That's a great metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I once had a trial where we were probably halfway through and this guy on the other side was such a fireball. He just gets so heated about everything. And halfway through in a break, he goes, man, I really don't like you. I said, oh, that's okay. He goes, no, no, I like you. I mean, you're great. He goes, the thing is, he goes, you don't give me an enemy.

That's a great metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I once had a trial where we were probably halfway through and this guy on the other side was such a fireball. He just gets so heated about everything. And halfway through in a break, he goes, man, I really don't like you. I said, oh, that's okay. He goes, no, no, I like you. I mean, you're great. He goes, the thing is, he goes, you don't give me an enemy.

He goes, I can't get mad at you. He's like, I can't. He goes, usually I try and make an opponent. So I've become, like before trial, of course, personally, we're fine. But when it comes to courtroom. Yeah, you put the gloves on and get after it. Exactly. I'm the opponent. And so he wants to feel justified in saying mean things and this other side, and they're the enemy. But I never gave him that.

He goes, I can't get mad at you. He's like, I can't. He goes, usually I try and make an opponent. So I've become, like before trial, of course, personally, we're fine. But when it comes to courtroom. Yeah, you put the gloves on and get after it. Exactly. I'm the opponent. And so he wants to feel justified in saying mean things and this other side, and they're the enemy. But I never gave him that.

He goes, I can't get mad at you. He's like, I can't. He goes, usually I try and make an opponent. So I've become, like before trial, of course, personally, we're fine. But when it comes to courtroom. Yeah, you put the gloves on and get after it. Exactly. I'm the opponent. And so he wants to feel justified in saying mean things and this other side, and they're the enemy. But I never gave him that.

Because I didn't deserve it. I hadn't done anything rude. I was always continuing to be kind and just water off a duck's back kind of thing. And that's a main key is most people are just looking for an enemy when it comes to conversation. They're wanting to find a way to be mad at you.

Because I didn't deserve it. I hadn't done anything rude. I was always continuing to be kind and just water off a duck's back kind of thing. And that's a main key is most people are just looking for an enemy when it comes to conversation. They're wanting to find a way to be mad at you.

Because I didn't deserve it. I hadn't done anything rude. I was always continuing to be kind and just water off a duck's back kind of thing. And that's a main key is most people are just looking for an enemy when it comes to conversation. They're wanting to find a way to be mad at you.

Perfect. You got it. That's it.

Perfect. You got it. That's it.

Perfect. You got it. That's it.

That's it. They want to feel a certain way, so they need to dump it on somebody. And it just, you happen to be the living thing in the room. All right, so that distills down.

That's it. They want to feel a certain way, so they need to dump it on somebody. And it just, you happen to be the living thing in the room. All right, so that distills down.

That's it. They want to feel a certain way, so they need to dump it on somebody. And it just, you happen to be the living thing in the room. All right, so that distills down.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.