Jefferson Fisher

And it's not every man, I have to say this, but there is a certain particular type of person who for some reason, in my experience, would see a woman in the workplace or in the high sort of upper echelons of the professional environment

as being less than them just because of her gender.

So when I hear what you're saying about women are predominantly coming to you talking about these issues of gaslighting, it does kind of track with what I've seen.

Never?

Never.

What about the conversation around like dealing with narcissists?

Because this feels like it's kind of one in the same.

The words are used in the same sort of vernacular.

But do you have men coming to you saying that I think my partner is a narcissist?

Yes.

And what do you say to someone who is dealing with a narcissist, who is dealing with someone who repeatedly gaslights them?

Let's say it's in the context of work.

What are they meant to do?

Quit their job?

When you think of like the hallmarks of a really, really one of these types of people, what are the way the characteristics that I should be looking out for if I'm dealing with one such person who is going to try and manipulate me, is going to try and gaslight me?

What do they do?

Have you ever had a narcissist try and prey on you?

Do they tend to talk more or less than the average person in the room?

Is there a thin line between just being insecure and being a narcissist?

Because one of the things I was thinking about is you said earlier that they tend to bring everything back to themselves.