Jefferson Fisher

Or two guys who are talking about a business deal or something.

And just for that brief moment, the staff is able to kind of, the waiter, the waitress are able to kind of be able to curate something to say, let me listen with my eyes here.

You just ruined the punchline.

Yeah.

The worst is like when you're in serious conversation and some cheery young guy comes in and is like, hey, did you like the catfish?

And you're like, my man, can you not see that like we're hanging on by a thread right here.

We're barely holding on.

No, I don't need a refill.

You're good.

Yeah, there's those moments too.

But it's like when you can also listen with your eyes and see the reactions of other people and how does that translate to when you see that person who is running five minutes late and they look frantic or they look hurt or there's things going on, you can tell beneath that surface.

It's not just going, well, you didn't say anything, but you saw it.

Yeah.

Well, why not?

Why not just do it every day?

Why not just do it all the time?

I truly think the world would be just so much more fun.

And I think when you can find ways to be more spontaneous, more creative.

Yeah.

You know, like what I would often try and do is just have conversations in the most random of places.