Jefferson Fisher

The quicker that you get to that, that's somebody who says, I'm okay being wrong.

The person in front of you isn't fighting you.

They're fighting to be understood by you.

They're fighting to feel understood by you.

When somebody's clammed up and you have to say, you need to change your opinion.

You need to change your opinion.

You're right.

I'm wrong.

That's not going to happen.

You can't just wish for that.

Instead, if I were to say to you,

listen, I'm not here to change your mind, Jay.

This is what I believe.

You hear how just me saying that all of a sudden opens up that curiosity of, well, maybe I do want to change my mind.

I don't really know.

But if I were to say, how can you possibly think that?

You really think that that person is the person you should be voting for?

You think that, and as soon as I get into criticism, the more I tell you that you're wrong, the more convinced you'll be that you're right.

Because most likely, if I want you to change your mind and I say that you're wrong about something, Jay, I'm not just saying you're wrong.

I'm saying that your wife's wrong.