Jefferson Fisher
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
Just to like, just switch it up.
Even if it's at like an ice cream shop.
Like just, you know, like I, when I first was starting my, the new law firm, that's what I did.
I would try and have a conversation with the client.
I was like, you don't want to go sit in my office.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Let's go sit somewhere at this.
I know a lot of people do a coffee shop or like I would do a park or just because let me show you that if I can at least bring a little bit of.
A hundred percent.
You know why I like this park?
This park reminds me of this time I was with my dad and I did this and,
Just to be able to share a little bit of that context and story is enough for them to trust you more than any degree they'd see on the wall in your office.
Yeah, that's the bad kind.
That almost sounds illegal.
For sure.
But that's what you go, maybe they don't feel comfortable doing that.
Right, right.
Right.
All of a sudden, it has nothing to do about degree or experience.