Jefferson Fisher

Yeah.

Okay.

So this is one of the ones you have in career.

And this, this is one that hit me is the old thought is you're owed mentorship and opportunity.

And so I thought like, okay, that's,

Boy, that's true in my life at times where, at least in the legal profession, it's a sense of you're owed certain things.

And that can feel that way.

Like people will go, oh, I'm not gonna chase this because nobody's doing it for me.

I guess nobody wants to help me.

It's just all me and I'm not gonna waste the time.

And the new thought that you have after you talk about the story is you are the creator of your own career and the responsibility for it is yours too.

And I thought, okay, Emma, all right, Emma, that was good.

It was so good of like, hey, nobody else is going to do that.

And I think a lot of that, and I wanna go into this real quick, is you are the oldest, I believe, of four.

Okay, and you had a single mother.

Okay.

And I'm curious, you know, how much of the mindset that you have, the title of the book has to do with that girl who didn't finish high school, went to work.

I'm the oldest of four, right?

Yeah, I'm the oldest of four.

This is why we're kindred souls.