Jefferson Fisher

It's the same way of when my son or daughter come to me with things.

If I were to yell at them for saying that they did something wrong, well, all I'm teaching them is that I'm not a safe place to come to again.

And that's never something that I want.

So if he is approaching you, even with the smallest level of emotion, I want you to, if it makes sense, I'm not trying to push you into something that doesn't feel comfortable to you.

I want you to encourage you to use words of gratitude.

Like, thank you for coming to me with this.

I can imagine that felt really big.

Or, you know, I can imagine that feels really hard to express.

And I appreciate the effort that you've put into this.

So that's the biggest thing is to acknowledge, even when it's a very small feeling.

To you, it might be the most minor thing, is to acknowledge and affirm the emotion that is being expressed.

And I think that's a way of showing that you can be a safe space for even more.

Great question.

Okay.

Okay.

Catherine, thank you for sharing that.

That can be really hurtful when you apologize for something and seek forgiveness and that forgiveness is refused.

One, I have a big problem with that because

You know, you can't expect to receive forgiveness if you don't give forgiveness.

And that's going to be up to that other person.