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Jefferson Fisher

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The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

And you can say, well, I'm just not going to play. That's true. You can not play. And that would be my advice. Ideally, yeah, you never deal with these people. Ideally, yeah, you don't talk to them. But again, like I started at the outset of this episode, it's not reality oftentimes. Now you could say, I'm out of here. I'm not talking to you. And you're gone. It's just not practical.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

And you can say, well, I'm just not going to play. That's true. You can not play. And that would be my advice. Ideally, yeah, you never deal with these people. Ideally, yeah, you don't talk to them. But again, like I started at the outset of this episode, it's not reality oftentimes. Now you could say, I'm out of here. I'm not talking to you. And you're gone. It's just not practical.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

And you can say, well, I'm just not going to play. That's true. You can not play. And that would be my advice. Ideally, yeah, you never deal with these people. Ideally, yeah, you don't talk to them. But again, like I started at the outset of this episode, it's not reality oftentimes. Now you could say, I'm out of here. I'm not talking to you. And you're gone. It's just not practical.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It sounds good when somebody writes it in a comment. It's not practical. this is something where I want you to actually be equipped for real life. And if I'm not doing that, then I'm not doing my job, and then I'm not even following my passion. And what's the point of that? You're in a game called praise or provoke. Get that in your mind when you talk to these people.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It sounds good when somebody writes it in a comment. It's not practical. this is something where I want you to actually be equipped for real life. And if I'm not doing that, then I'm not doing my job, and then I'm not even following my passion. And what's the point of that? You're in a game called praise or provoke. Get that in your mind when you talk to these people.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It sounds good when somebody writes it in a comment. It's not practical. this is something where I want you to actually be equipped for real life. And if I'm not doing that, then I'm not doing my job, and then I'm not even following my passion. And what's the point of that? You're in a game called praise or provoke. Get that in your mind when you talk to these people.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It doesn't matter what you do. If you're not feeding them with control, if you're not feeding the monster with your emotions, whether it's happy emotions or sad emotions, they will turn into the worst types of personalities you'll ever experience where you go, I cannot do it. And I know you want to fix it. That's what, you're good.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It doesn't matter what you do. If you're not feeding them with control, if you're not feeding the monster with your emotions, whether it's happy emotions or sad emotions, they will turn into the worst types of personalities you'll ever experience where you go, I cannot do it. And I know you want to fix it. That's what, you're good.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

It doesn't matter what you do. If you're not feeding them with control, if you're not feeding the monster with your emotions, whether it's happy emotions or sad emotions, they will turn into the worst types of personalities you'll ever experience where you go, I cannot do it. And I know you want to fix it. That's what, you're good.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

I know if you're listening to this episode, you're a good person because you're trying to figure out how do I do it? How do I navigate these situations? You want to fix it. That's the rigged game. That's the rigged game, baby. It looks beatable. It looks beatable.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

I know if you're listening to this episode, you're a good person because you're trying to figure out how do I do it? How do I navigate these situations? You want to fix it. That's the rigged game. That's the rigged game, baby. It looks beatable. It looks beatable.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

I know if you're listening to this episode, you're a good person because you're trying to figure out how do I do it? How do I navigate these situations? You want to fix it. That's the rigged game. That's the rigged game, baby. It looks beatable. It looks beatable.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

If you could just explain to them how what they said hurts you, if you could just put it just the right way, and all of a sudden the light bulb's going to click, and their eyes are going to open, and they go, oh my gosh, I've said so many things that are so hurtful, and you're right, I should take accountability for this, and I should be better about this. That will never happen. Don't do it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

If you could just explain to them how what they said hurts you, if you could just put it just the right way, and all of a sudden the light bulb's going to click, and their eyes are going to open, and they go, oh my gosh, I've said so many things that are so hurtful, and you're right, I should take accountability for this, and I should be better about this. That will never happen. Don't do it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

If you could just explain to them how what they said hurts you, if you could just put it just the right way, and all of a sudden the light bulb's going to click, and their eyes are going to open, and they go, oh my gosh, I've said so many things that are so hurtful, and you're right, I should take accountability for this, and I should be better about this. That will never happen. Don't do it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

Have the mindset of just, one, acknowledging you're in the game. Two, What are practical ways, Jefferson, of how we're going to handle these kind of conversations? I'm going to tell you. You want to use very neutral, flat statements. Why? Because they can't do anything with it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

Have the mindset of just, one, acknowledging you're in the game. Two, What are practical ways, Jefferson, of how we're going to handle these kind of conversations? I'm going to tell you. You want to use very neutral, flat statements. Why? Because they can't do anything with it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

Have the mindset of just, one, acknowledging you're in the game. Two, What are practical ways, Jefferson, of how we're going to handle these kind of conversations? I'm going to tell you. You want to use very neutral, flat statements. Why? Because they can't do anything with it.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

We're tempted in our default to say things that are going to incite things that are going to prove to them why they're wrong and why we're right. That doesn't work with narcissists. They don't do empathy. They don't do acknowledgement. They don't do accountability. So instead, we're going to use flat, neutral statements. These are statements like noted. That's good to know. Thank you.

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast
Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

We're tempted in our default to say things that are going to incite things that are going to prove to them why they're wrong and why we're right. That doesn't work with narcissists. They don't do empathy. They don't do acknowledgement. They don't do accountability. So instead, we're going to use flat, neutral statements. These are statements like noted. That's good to know. Thank you.