Jeffrey Ladish

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · Reward Hacking by Reasoning Models & Loss of Control Scenarios w/ Jeffrey Ladish of Palisade Research, from FLI Podcast · 2 Apr 2025 podcast

So it'll always be bad, right?

And I'm like, nah no, no, you've got to look at the trend.

Like in the past year, AI systems have gotten much better at sort of doing tasks that took, you know, multiple hours instead of like, you know, multiple minutes.

And so I think I think the trend there is pretty clear, but we're not yet at the point where you can just hand an AI programmer, you know, you

you know, build this you know, build this email application or build this Slack application and it can do the whole thing end to end.

And I mean, thank God, because if we were there, we would be in the realm where the all the AI companies would have, you know, tens of thousands of AI research engineers.

And I don't know if the planet would look very similar to how it does right now.

So I I you know, in some ways, it's it's very good that we're not there yet.

That means that we actually have some time to try to get a grasp on this situation, but

don't know how much time.

Yes, I think the connection is very fundamental.

And like maybe more fundamental than people realize.

I think often people ask me, like, hey, like, where do the goals come from?

Like, you know, also why are we gonna give these AI systems goals?

Like, why don't we just have them do exactly what we want?

But I think

You know, we're sort of treating goal as like a magical property, but it's not really.

If you, you know, if you have an employee and you're like, hey, you have these responsibilities, like go out and and and here's some problems, go out and solve them.

That employee needs to sort of understand what their goals are in order to do a good job.

If they don't have coherent goals, they're like, ooh, shiny thing over here, like ooh, shiny thing over here, or like, I kind of just feel like doing this over here, and they're not consistent.

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