Jeffrey Ladish

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · Reward Hacking by Reasoning Models & Loss of Control Scenarios w/ Jeffrey Ladish of Palisade Research, from FLI Podcast · 2 Apr 2025 podcast

Maybe you have a lot of economic growth, you know, and maybe you're automating all the factories.

And you know, the AI systems, like robotics has finally gotten good and like there's just automated factories and you know the GDP is growing.

But some you know, if if people start to like protest this and they're like, wait, we don't want this we don't want the future to be AI run, we want the future to be human run, and they try to go and stop it, like every every single place they go, they run into little road bro roadblocks where it's like

You know, the the the companies don't care.

And like if you go to the government, the government's like now these companies are so powerful and so rich that like their lobbyists, which are by the way are also probably AI lobbyists, or at least AI is advising them.

You know, have just have a stranglehold on government.

You know, and then if you try to go and you say, like, well, what about national security?

And it's like, well, ch we China's right over here.

You know, we can't let China China win.

And so we have to have these AI systems.

And then I you know, it's and then like in fact, maybe then you've lost control, right?

And so

That's sort of a gradual loss of control risk.

And I think there's a question of like what happens after that.

And and I think maybe the thing that happens after that looks more like an acute loss of control.

And so in that scenario to me and and you know

Maybe, maybe at that point in the in the in the gradual scenario, there's a day where all the all the all the factories are automated and the AI systems are just like, cool, we don't need the humans anymore.

We have robots.

We we control all of these factories.

And you know, maybe you release bioweapons, maybe you release drones, you know, people get gunned down in the street, or maybe not.

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