Jeffrey Sachs

And the Holocaust put that into overdrive for completely understandable reasons, but not rational reasons that attend to current realities.

So I'd say Netanyahu is the...

basically the security vision but again to my mind irrational cruel illegal self-defeating disastrous not real security for israel but security in the phrase we kill them before they kill us then is

a very different variant that is now the coalition partners represented by two now well-known leaders to us, Ben-Gavir and Smotrich, two cabinet ministers who are religious.

religious with a very strange idea.

And it's a new form of Judaism, which actually attaches to some ancient texts, but was not

a real form of Judaism for 2,000 years.

It's not what I grew up with at all.

It's not what I grew up with as a Jew at all.

It's something absolutely late 20th century, early 21st century.

One of the parties is called Jewish Power.

And it is the idea that... That's its actual name?

Yes.

In Hebrew, yes.

We redeem...

God's promise to us by becoming greater Israel.

So the act of this expanded Israel is a religious demand upon us.

This is our redemption, is this very political military program that we have.

And that is Smotrich and Ben-Gavir, which says on a religious basis, we couldn't have a state of Palestine next door.

God gave us that land.