Jeh Johnson
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first heard Jan 2026
last heard 28 Jan
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Well, Jen...
In your last segment, you sort of snatched the words out of my mouth.
Even in normal circumstances, a government agency cannot investigate itself unless it has a truly independent inspector general to start such an investigation.
What should happen here, if we were dealing in normal circumstances, the normal administration, is a horrific incident like the shooting of Rene Goode or Alex Preti occurs.
The matter is referred to the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.
The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice stood up for... This is one of the very reasons they were stood up in the first place.
Investigators from the Department of Justice, likely the FBI, along with investigators from the Department of Homeland Security,
and probably along with local law enforcement, simply for credibility and accountability, because local law enforcement very often has the best leads, has the most familiarity with the community, all working together to try to get to a particular result, wherever the evidence leads them.
And one of the other facets of a truly independent investigation is you don't have government leaders prejudging
what has happened within moments of the incident in the military.
I used to be the general counsel of the Department of Defense.
It's called undue command influence, where you have a commander or a leader who is prejudging what should happen in the investigation, which then puts pressure on the subordinates to come out a certain way.
And so,
for the Department of Justice to say, well, we're going to leave it up to DHS to investigate itself, even though DHS doesn't have prosecutors, is not an entirely satisfactory position to take here.
We know two people are dead who didn't have to die.
Let's start with that.
Or is it?
I don't know how you have two parallel investigations because somebody's got to have custody of the evidence.
somebody's got to be interviewing the witnesses, hopefully only one at a time.
To me, having parallel investigations by the feds, by local law enforcement is most unfortunate.
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